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posted on May 3, 2008 by dumpc0r3 (A27nEumf5o)

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The Robert L. Capp collection at the Hoover Institution Archives contains ten never-before-published photographs illustrating the immediate aftermath of the Hiroshima bombing. These photographs, taken by an unknown Japanese photographer, were found in 1945 among rolls of undeveloped film in a cave outside Hiroshima by U.S. serviceman Robert L. Capp, who was attached to the occupation forces. Unlike most photos of the Hiroshima bombing, these dramatically convey the human as well as material destruction unleashed by the atomic bomb. Mr. Capp donated them to the Hoover Archives in 1998 with the provision that they not be reproduced until 2008. Three of these photographs are reproduced in Atomic Tragedy with the permission of the Capp family. The entire set is available below. Please contact Sean L. Malloy (smalloy@ucmerced.edu) if you have any information that might help identify the original photographer.
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edit - remove - report - save #1 - by Anonymous May 3, 2008

The jab bastards got just what they deserved. They started the war and we dam well finished it!!

edit - remove - report - save #2 - by Anonymous May 3, 2008

I don't get what (for instance) the 7th picture has to do with Hiroshima. I see a lot of dead people, but they certainly don't seem like the nuclear blast did that to them Or were they dumped there by the Japanese who were overwhelmed by the number of dead?

edit - remove - report - save #3 - by WW2 vet May 3, 2008

I view these images and all I can see are sunken battleships, black-palled skies, a fiery inferno of dying, dead sailors, boys dying in a flash entombed in listing ships, kamikazes, heads chopped off, civilians butchered, raped, decapitated, experimened on, tortured, starved/marched to death, used for bayonet practice and more, too much, much more......

These images won't evince the slightest bit of emotionalism out of me.

edit - remove - report - save #4 - by Anonymous May 3, 2008

To post 1: we can still mourn the loss of humanity the picture illustrates, even while knowing that the United States was absolutely forced into the action by the horrific insanity of the Japanese society. Children don't deserve that, no matter how depraved their national leaders.

But I get your point: why is it the world mourns for the victims of Hiroshima, but has forgotten the sex slaves of Korea, the exterminations of Nanking, the death marches of the Philippines, and the other Japanese atrocities which necessitated such a response.

You'd think from listening to so many, that the Japanese would be happier to see two million more of their wives and children slaughtered in a prolonged, conventional war, which their deified leader would have condemned them to.

Or maybe we were supposed to let the Japanese slaughter millions of Philippinos, Koreans, Manchurians, Hawaiians, Californians, etc.

edit - remove - report - save #5 - by anonymous May 3, 2008

Yeah 1! Couldn't have said it any better.

edit - remove - report - save #6 - by Robbins Mitchell May 3, 2008

Given the fact that we now know the Japanese were working on their own version of the atomic bomb...the 'genzai bakudan'..and that they had been receiving fissionable U-235 from the Germans since 1943,and would no doubt have used it on the Allies if they had managed to perfect it first, I see no reason to feel sympathetic or apologetic for nuking either Hiroshima or Nagasaki

"North Tinian tower,this is Dimples 8-2 requesting taxi clearance."
Col Paul Tibbets
6 August,1945

edit - remove - report - save #7 - by Anonymous May 3, 2008

"I see no reason to feel sympathetic or apologetic for nuking either Hiroshima or Nagasaki"

Without any question from anyone, all posters seem the need to defend the morality of the action. So it seems some internal struggle is going on.

Personally I guess nuking a Japanese mountain as a warning that the US was serious would have done the trick.

edit - remove - report - save #8 - by Robbins Mitchell May 3, 2008

Not really...aside from the fact that it might have failed to detonate and ended up in Japanese hands if we had bombed a mountain,even after we nuked Hiroshima,the Japanese war cabinet was not inclined to surrender until after we hit Nagasaki on 9 August and Emperor Hirohito personally intervened to override the cabinet and effect the surrender...nuking a Japanese mountain would have accomplished nothing

edit - remove - report - save #9 - by Anonymous May 3, 2008

War is never a good thing. This was the final chapter of a book that the Japanese insisted on writing. We finished it. Millions were going to die to get to the final page and choice was if their people were going to pass or ours. We made the right choice. I lost an Uncle in the march of Battan. He was executed because he was too sick to keep up. My father and the rest of my uncles went to war to avenge him and to defend out nation. I am proud of them and every other American service man that fought and finally ended that great conflict.
The blame for the death of the worlds first nuclear encounters rests firmly on the heads and souls of the Japanese leaders who initiated that war.

edit - remove - report - save #10 - by Anonymous May 3, 2008

the pictures are of a past as a reminder of death & war a reminder of what our parents and grand parents were fighting for the peace we still fight for today will it ever stop how many more milllions must suffer because of greed from so few who try to be the most powerful when will they under stand its what the majority wont not the minority

edit - remove - report - save #11 - by Adolf May 3, 2008

I think I'll order a set of these pictures for my bunker. They'll look good next to my Auschwitz collection. I'll need to ask Eva if she would like a set for herself.

Japs got what they asked for !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edit - remove - report - save #12 - by Anonymous May 3, 2008

Almost 63 years later and some are still in hand wringing mode.
War is cruelty. There's no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.” -William Tecumseh Sherman

edit - remove - report - save #13 - by Anonymous May 3, 2008

7...right, I suppose that is why they ignored the first one on nagasaki...I'm sure bombing a mountain would have changed their minds. You are either naive or just stupid...you choose.

edit - remove - report - save #14 - by Anonymous May 3, 2008

Hiroshima was first, Nagasaki second.

edit - remove - report - save #15 - by Anonymous May 3, 2008

I had a granduncle killed in Singapore where the Japanese carted them off in a truck to a beach, made them dig their own mass graves and shot them.
We have no grudges against them now, but we do remember the atrocities the Japanese did, and we do appreciate what the US did. It must have been a difficult action for the US to take then, but as unpleasant as the pictures are, the atomic bomb saved uncountable innocent lives if the war dragged on.
What we should do is remember and learn and not let it happen again, ie Iran.

edit - remove - report - save #16 - by Anonymous May 3, 2008

Hopefully mecca and medina will get the same treatment.

edit - remove - report - save #17 - by Anonymous May 3, 2008

"The jab bastards got just what they deserved. They started the war and we dam well finished it!!"

Glad you enjoyed the pictures. Let me know when your tribe discovers fire...and spelling.

edit - remove - report - save #18 - by Anonymous May 3, 2008

The responses here are absolutely disgusting. The US was in no way forced to nuke innocent civilians. Not only was this a horrific act of terrorism by the United States, it was militarily unnecessary.

"The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace. The atomic bomb played no decisive part, from a purely military point of view, in the defeat of Japan." Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, Commander in Chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet.

"The use of [the atomic bombs] at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender." Admiral William D. Leahy, Chief of Staff to President Truman.

edit - remove - report - save #19 - by Robbins Mitchell May 3, 2008

The previous anti-nuke poster is missing the point entirely....had we not used 'Little Boy' on Hiroshima & 'Fat Man' on Nagasaki, it would have necessitated a prolonged and resource intensive 2 phase amphibious assault on the Japanese home islands...they still had nearly 4 million men under arms on the Asian mainland they were prepared to redeploy to Kyushu and Honshu to defend the government which would have resulted in close to half a million Allied casualties and unnumbered millions of Japanese fatalities...given the choice of a long drawn out conclusion to the war or a short one that would save countless lives and resources,President Truman did the only humane thing possible...he put an end to the killing altogether virtually overnight...those who would fancy themselves morally outraged over our use of nukes, would no doubt rather we had used 1000 B-29's killing 2 million Japanese over the following 3 months than have 2 of them kill only 200,000 in 2 raids

edit - remove - report - save #20 - by Not your friend May 3, 2008

To post 18. You are obviously not very smart. Ask the Chinese about Nanking. (history is a bitch) The use of the atomic bomb was a necessary event, and you are a fool. You would rather become a statistic then fight for something greater than your self.assume your natural position head inserted firmly in your 5th point of contact

edit - remove - report - save #21 - by Anonymous May 3, 2008

The truth be told if the Japanese home islands had to be invaded many of the people you see dead in those photos would have been killed in the invasion. Either because they fought the invading forces or they were collateral damage in truth many more Japanese would have died not to mention the allied soldiers who would have died. The bombing as awful as it was the lesser of two evils.

edit - remove - report - save #22 - by Anonymous May 3, 2008

It was a tragedy of huge proportions whether it was necessary or not, and certainly nothing to be defiant or arrogant about. Maybe a little hand-wringing is appropriate when looking at pictures of dead babies.

edit - remove - report - save #23 - by anonymous May 3, 2008

18. Remove head from rectum, surgically if necessary.

edit - remove - report - save #24 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

Americans need to put yourselves in other people's shoes. What if the whole DC and NY states were nuked in order to cease the war killing 10 million innocents instead of 15 if the war were to continue...
Would that be OK then?

With such a violent mentality and attitude, it's no wonder why your kids get shot in schools

Killing is justifiable as long as you feel good about it...right!

I'm can only be happy that most people on this world are not americans

edit - remove - report - save #25 - by Robbins Mitchell May 4, 2008

Well the people in those other shoes did manage to detonate their own rudimentary low yield nuke at Konan (Hungnam)in occupied Korea on the very day after we bombed Nagasaki with the limited weapons grade U-235 they had....had we not nuked them first and initiated a long drawn out war of attrition for the home islands,they might very well have had enough bomb grade uranium to nuke us first...so,yea,given the fact that even if they had done exactly that and hit NY and DC,it wouldn't have compelled us to surrender causing still more millions would have died, that made what we did a lot more OK'er than any other option we had.

edit - remove - report - save #26 - by Not your friend May 4, 2008

Post 24
"I'm can only be happy that most people on this world are not americans"
We would be happy if you weren't here with your stupid KUMBYAH BS victim crap. It must really suck to be you, moron

edit - remove - report - save #27 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

a despicable war crime, comparable to anything the nazis did.

edit - remove - report - save #28 - by Not your friend May 4, 2008

27 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008"
a despicable war crime, comparable to anything the nazis did. "Facts not in evidence

edit - remove - report - save #29 - by Elli May 4, 2008

The ignorance and arrogance in the so many of the responses above mine are staggering and sickening. I suggest you re-read your history books before spouting blind "rah America" rhetoric.

edit - remove - report - save #30 - by Not your friend May 4, 2008

29 - by Elli May 4, 2008"The ignorance and arrogance in the so many of the responses above mine are staggering and sickening. I suggest you re-read your history books before spouting blind "rah America" rhetoric." There is no doubt that these are horrific events but to blame America for the worlds ills is shallow and incorrect. And psuedo intellectual who have their mantra of it's americas fault is tiring. I respectfully submit that "evil triumphs when good men do nothing" E. Burke
No one enjoys war or killing (except for the truly sick) but to do nothing you get Rowanda where was the world population while that was going on?

edit - remove - report - save #31 - by Nick (5qPBCjejpE) - May 4, 2008

To 19 20 & 23
Obviously you don't know history, so do not assault the 18th poster. (S)he quotes explicitly Adm. Nimitz saying the Japanese already wanted peace. The claim that it would have taken millions of soldiers to take Japan is totally false. The Chicago Tribune even reported before war's end that the Japanese wanted to surrender. The problem is you can't surrender when the other guy's still shooting. The only condition was the emperor stayed on the throne, which in fact he did.

Those bombings were about scaring Stalin, plain and simple. We wanted to prove to him we were stronger than the USSR and this provided an opportunity.

Plus, wasn't it a nice coincidence that the first bomb dropped the day before the Soviet Union was obligated to join the US in fighting Japan?

Reality isn't always what you were made to believe at the time. If so, the Iraq war would still be about WMD, I mean Oil, I mean al Qaeda, I mean liberating the Iraqis...

Last point, I wish I could say something malicious and didn't have the guts to at least ascribe a name to it. That's shameful behavior. Too bad you won't come back to this page to read this.

edit - remove - report - save #32 - by Nick (5qPBCjejpE) - May 4, 2008

To 19 20 & 23
Obviously you don't know history, so do not assault the 18th poster. (S)he quotes explicitly Adm. Nimitz saying the Japanese already wanted peace. The claim that it would have taken millions of soldiers to take Japan is totally false. The Chicago Tribune even reported before war's end that the Japanese wanted to surrender. The problem is you can't surrender when the other guy's still shooting. The only condition was the emperor stayed on the throne, which in fact he did.

Those bombings were about scaring Stalin, plain and simple. We wanted to prove to him we were stronger than the USSR and this provided an opportunity.

Plus, wasn't it a nice coincidence that the first bomb dropped the day before the Soviet Union was obligated to join the US in fighting Japan?

Reality isn't always what you were made to believe at the time. If so, the Iraq war would still be about WMD, I mean Oil, I mean al Qaeda, I mean liberating the Iraqis...

Last point, I wish I could say something malicious and didn't have the guts to at least ascribe a name to it. That's shameful behavior. Too bad you won't come back to this page to read this.

edit - remove - report - save #33 - by Chris anderson (FzAyW.Rdbg) - May 4, 2008

I agree with 32, also quoting 19. "would no doubt rather we had used 1000 B-29's killing 2 million Japanese over the following 3 months than have 2 of them kill only 200,000 in 2 raids", history lesson: before the nuking the allies had already spent months firebombing japan into complete ruin. Your alternate ending had already been carried out before hand unlearned. This act WAS more about displaying Nuclear weapons for the first time, and that the americans were not afraid to use them on the soviets.

edit - remove - report - save #34 - by Me (QkRJTXcpFI) - May 4, 2008

Can we please not forget that the Japanese launched an unprovoked attack against America. We should have nuked 'em the next day.

edit - remove - report - save #35 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

@ post 7:
You would like to think so but the fact is that even after one nuclear bombing of a city they still wouldn't give up.

It had to be done. The world, including America, morned the loss of life.

edit - remove - report - save #36 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

No you idiot 1
They did not start it, the US outright provoked the war. Im sad to see you think that 100,000 civilian deaths is justified.

edit - remove - report - save #37 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

Wow there sure is a lot of intelligence on this board *sarcasm*

We drop an a-bomb and people who were not even alive at the time are proud of it...

Way to go America.

edit - remove - report - save #38 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

"the jab(you can't even fucking spell) bastards got just what they deserved. They started the war and we dam well finished it"
I can't wait til a terrorist detonates a backpack nuke in one of your major cities you hateful bastards.reap the fucking whirlwind.

edit - remove - report - save #39 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

what a carnage...
noone deserves things like that.

edit - remove - report - save #40 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

This has been humanity throughout it's existence. Disgusting animals.

edit - remove - report - save #41 - by Not your friend May 4, 2008

37 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

Wow there sure is a lot of intelligence on this board *sarcasm*

We drop an a-bomb and people who were not even alive at the time are proud of it...

Way to go America.
So leave

edit - remove - report - save #42 - by dan kardas (XRzKjd85z2) - May 4, 2008

war is a cancer in man. if a war happens, the best thing to do is to use any and all means to end it asap. the japanese refused to surrender unconditionally until after hiroshima and nagasaki.
my dad was scheduled for the invasion of japan. i am happy that he did not have to go. he survived the war. do i feel bad about the pics of the dead people? yes.
but i am happier that we won, and they lost.

edit - remove - report - save #43 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

Almost as shocking as the comments. The lack of *knowledge* by some people on this is staggering. Post 20, Nanking was China's problem. Why do the Americans always rush in to other people's problems, and invariably fuck up. And no, the Japanese didnt start it. The Americans did. I'm guessing your just taking your frustrations about coming to terms with knowing the rest of the world hate the American government out on this post. You're the most hypocritical pack of ignorants Ive ever read. "bastards got what they deserve" what does America deserve? An A-bomb for every gross violation of human rights? Guantanamo, Abu-Ghraib, the countless innocents killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, "Not Your Friend", I'm glad you're not my friend. You are a fool, and you are the reason much of the world hate America.

edit - remove - report - save #44 - by John (Kaof4U6JeY) - May 4, 2008

Wow. What a bunch of stupid people posts in here. Go play GTAIV, senseless assholes!

back to topic:

This was a truly a sad event and we can only hope our leaders are smart enough to never repeat it again.

edit - remove - report - save #45 - by Scooby Doo 123 May 4, 2008

Opinions, Opinions, OPINIONS!!! War is Death. War is Money. War is for the sensless, and war will never end. The only way that could work is if the people worked as a whole, not as a bunch of different societys with different forms of everything these different governments, send different views to there people, changing there minds as to what is good, and bad.

GTAIV BABY

edit - remove - report - save #46 - by William Mitchell (QkRJTXcpFI) - May 4, 2008

Post 38 "I can't wait til a terrorist detonates a backpack nuke in one of your major cities you hateful bastards.reap the fucking whirlwind."

Poster for 38, I can't wait to see what list you end up on. Hope you live overseas, just forwarded your post to the FBI tip page. I am sure if you are insane enough to actually post something this hateful and inarticulate that you have other skeletons beyond words and towards action. You posted anonymous, you may find that not quite good enough. Are you willing to bring that backpack in? Good luck trying now, and watch your back if you do come to the US.

edit - remove - report - save #47 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

After reading most of these comments it's hard to NOT be disgusted or alarmed by many people posting on this site.

These pictures should be a way of telling us that war should never be the answer even if it's to "get the back". Especially nuclear warfare. The consequences of which (i.e. radiation) many Japanese have to suffer from even today.

Another thing that astounds and disappoints me is how little so many of you know about American history or WWII in general.

Please THINK before you speak such strong statements.

edit - remove - report - save #48 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

*"get THEM back"

edit - remove - report - save #49 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

I am appalled that there is still such insensitivity to death and destruction as I have read at this posting. war is hell. and we are still killing people and losing our own - and for what? Are YOU proud of what you see? Are YOU proud of what is happening? I am not.

edit - remove - report - save #50 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

"fighting is the answer if you are afraid of doing the right thing." - someone smarter than you

edit - remove - report - save #51 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

"that man was unarmed!"
"well, he should've armed himself shouldn't he"

born into love we grow up to be walking contradicitons

edit - remove - report - save #52 - by greatman05 (f7q2skaKPI) - May 4, 2008

These pictures are truly heartbreaking, saddening, and sickening...America should have NEVER used the A-bomb...I weep for humanity...:(

edit - remove - report - save #53 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

See, the real problem here isn't that we did it, it's that so many people apparently think nothing bad came of it and are happy so many died. You should at least think it is sad, not something to party about.

edit - remove - report - save #54 - by Theo (QUcnhXzFvI) - May 4, 2008

This happened only 63 years ago. Idealists believe that human nature will someday change. Japan was not the victim in World War II. The Japanese committed unspeakable atrocities from 1935 to 1945 The "comfort women" used as sex slaves for Japanese soldiers, practicing cannibalism in New Guinea, the massacre of 2500 Australian prisoners in Borneo, the medical tests done by Japanese unit 731, and many, many more. These idealists forget that sometimes you have to fight back. Sitting in a drum circle and getting high doesn't do much when people are trying to kill you.

edit - remove - report - save #55 - by A.R.Fletcher (LdjnafaTXM) - May 4, 2008

I've actually read all 53 posts, and I must say that you're all right and all wrong at the same time. War is hell. I'm anti-war, and anti-hell, but why spend all my energy being AGAINST made-up things? I think I might just declare myself pro-love. Love is real, not a mythical place, or a state of utter chaos driven by political opposition. Blah, blah, blah, right? fuggin' jabs.

edit - remove - report - save #56 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

only american assholes would think this is ok

compared to what the usa do all over the world the japanese were angels compared to american morons

edit - remove - report - save #57 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

I dont get how people see these and think "danm right! America rocks!". I see these and I am disgusted that the country in which I proudly (most the time) live in did this. Look at the bodies of those poeple, but dont think of them as Japanese, think of them as American. Where is your pro war attitude now? Tear down this invisible line called a border and they are not Japanese and we are not American (or whatever) we are all human, we breath the same air drink the same water and we both shit. We are all human, fuck borders.

edit - remove - report - save #58 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

You know, it's funny how these things work. If we do it, it's ok. Sometimes, it's not even talked about. But when they do it, it's a war crime.
Don't paint the U.S. as some big savior. We're not. I'm glad I live in the U.S. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. But our past is stained with more blood than I care to think about.
As far as China is concerned, the west did really awful things there. We were involved in one of the largest ever human trafficking events in history (involving packaging women into boxes to be shipped to the U.S. as sex slaves). We got an entire continent addicted to opium so we could take as much money as possible and create chaos. Don't forget about the fact that we abducted people in Africa and forced them into slave labor here. We forced millions off their ancestral lands and massacred them if they resisted (look up Chief Joseph). Rape, pillage and murder taint our history and makings. What we've done is despicable. The atomic bomb is just one of thousands of examples of our war crimes.

edit - remove - report - save #59 - by Dan Cronk (4GbNIYLA26) - May 4, 2008

I really hope someone reads this after reading the rest of these posts because they have left me full of discomfort.






I understand why some of you are saying that the Japanese "got what they deserved" but that is a silly statement as the Japanese civilians did not start the war. Their government did. Many people in the U.S. do not like the war in Iraq however if Iraqis were to bomb U.S. civilians every American would be outraged. At the same time I do not want to sound like a war hating hippie because I am not. War is a part of human life. Almost every single technology that we rely on to get around town or to talk to our friends or to fly across the U.S. are all created through war. The internet itself was created in order to have faster data communication for the U.S. government to assist in war efforts. So if you hate war as much as you say I suggest you get off your computer (or at least the internet) immediately because ITS A PRODUCT OF WAR! Someone suggested the U.S. provoked the war and if you truly believe that I am very confused because they didn't. The Japanese were on Hitlers side so however the U.S. provoked being bombed by a nation who supports a sick dictator who murders innocents like they are garbage, I'm really interested to know how exactly it was the U.S's fault. None of us truly know whether or not nuking Japan was necessary, and those who think quoting people from that era makes them correct you are incredibly foolish. I could find a million quotes supporting the bombings and a million that don't support them, opinions are like assholes everyone has them. The only thing we should take out of this is that Nuclear war is terrible. It does horrible things to innocent cities and people. Lets all work together to prevent another such devastation of a country. We are all humans, we should not live to kill each other however when evil arises ( Germany Italy and Japan ) I see no shame or harm in bringing it down.

Finally I leave you with these thoughts.

=Those who crave war are cruel.
-Those who think war must be eliminated are naive.
-Those who see war for is cruelty but know that it is an inevitability while evil exists see humanity in its reality, there will always be evil without it good has no meaning.

edit - remove - report - save #60 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

This is what America did 60 years ago, and now it's talking about Iran being dangerous, you americans always blame others. you think those pilots who dropped these bombs will be rewarded in the world hereafter for killing million of innocent humans, think again. Every person involved with those atomic bomb attacks will be severely punished in the world hereafter.

edit - remove - report - save #61 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

To 4: You can't reason with people like 1. Just tell him to STFU.

edit - remove - report - save #62 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

To post 16:

Then you call muslims terrorists and fundamentalists. Good joke.

edit - remove - report - save #63 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

You American bastards! I celebrated long and hard when September 11 struck! Even opened a bottle of champagne, death to America!

edit - remove - report - save #64 - by intelligent comment (CSZ6G0yP9Q) - May 4, 2008

none of you get the point simply put these photos -and all the dead sailors etc- show that in war it is the common people who suffer. The politiciians, profit-makers and faceless beauraucrats get rich, powerful and all the glory. It is the normal everyday people who become poorer, get maimed. become homeless, are orphaned, die. Until Bush and his benefitting ilk fight on the frontlines war will always be of absolutely no benefit to the majority of people, unless they regard jingoistic patriotism as some kind of reward.

edit - remove - report - save #65 - by peace ! peace ! peace ! May 4, 2008

anger is blinding and lowers the IQ peace! peace! peace! thats all we are saying switch of tour tvs and stop buying so much and stop listening to your governments / corporations power to the people! your all puppets but you like the strings
stand and deliver

edit - remove - report - save #66 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

Dear Rights & Wrongs! You cannot turn back the clock & calendar. Let us hope that post-WII Americans (now a unipolar global power) forge ahead wisely and with bigger heart, bigger than that of a big brother. These pics bring shame to all of us, whatever was the historical reason behind it.

edit - remove - report - save #67 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

Bombing civilians..
i can't understand how you can't feel sympathy

edit - remove - report - save #68 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

I have several points to make.

Why did Japan send bombers all the way across the Pacific Ocean to bomb the United States? It was not easy to fly across the Pacific Famed aviator Amelia Earhart was never heard from again after attempting a non-stop flight through the Pacific just a few years before WWII.

So why did the Japanese send aircraft carriers across the ocean to bomb Pearl Harbour? Were they planning to invade a country of hundreds of millions of people that was on the other side of the planet? Were they just having some fun? "Ooh, I know, I know, let's bomb the Americans! They'll never expect it!" Hmm? Why?

Japan and America were fighting for control over the countries of the Pacific Rim during the 1930s. The American possession of the colony of the Philippines allowed them to interfere with the Asian expansionist agenda of the Japanese. The Americans were supplying Chinese rebels in Manchuria extending the Japanese fight in China. The US did this to undermine and weaken the Japanese. The Americans of 1940s were complete racists (putting Japanese-American citizens in POW camps) and even thirty years later American soldiers would be talking about "gooks". So don't get the idea that America was worried about the Asians who suffered Japanese brutalities.

The final straw was when America stopped supplying oil to the Japanese in 1941. Japan had no native oil fields and they had to import every drop of oil used in the country. Negotiations failed and war became necessary. Before you condemn it ask what US would do if Saudi Arabia just stopped selling oil to them tomorrow. The American economy would crash overnight and America would have to invade Saudi Arabia to forcibly take oil from them. The Japanese faced the same future and that's why they bombed Pearl Harbour.

My point is this: Pearl Harbour was the event that turned a decade long cold war between Japan and America into a hot war. Japan was simply quicker at making a pre-emptive strike. Before you condemn pre-emptive strikes, remember America and Iraq (and America and hundreds of other countries this century). Pearl Harbour had a history behind it. The Japanese did not attack without reason, contrary to what many Americans think.



Secondly, I wish to ask a question: Why is it assumed that America had to invade Japan in 1945? I noted before that Japan had no oil and was not mineral rich country. America had blockaded Japan completely and was carpet bombing (200,000+ dead from conventional bombing) the country. The Japanese economy was in absolute ruins. Metals and oils and other materials needed for war fighting were very scarce. I've read somewhere that the Japanese could not put up a single fighter to interdict the American bomber containing the nuclear bombs.

Of course, the Japanese would have fiercely resisted any land invasion, but why invade a country that could not really fight back? Why not blockade the country until the Japanese came to their senses or do it indefinitely? America has been technically at war with North Korea for over fifty years. Americans still maintain thousands of soldiers on the North Korean border today. Why couldn't the US Navy do the same to the Japanese islands? What would the Japanese do? Float over in rafts and scream at American destroyers?

Why did the choice have to be between a massive land invasion and the greatest act of (nuclear) terrorism that killed hundreds of thousands of civilians?

edit - remove - report - save #69 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

how anyone can condone the use of nuclear weapons is beyond me - america has just waged war on iraq for mass murder, but it's ok for them to obliterate the japanese? i think the bomb was dropped on the wrong nation...

edit - remove - report - save #70 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

These people pictured, did not choose to be Japanese, they were just born there, just as I did not choose to be British and you did not choose to be American. These are people, exactly as you and I, and there is no justification in taking the lives of so many for the crimes of a few. Never did two wrongs make a right, especially when there are children involved. My daughter couldn't possible understand the politics of war at the age she is, neither could the children pictured above, so is killing those children Justified? Honorable?
Do you think the men dictating the attacks, American and Japanese, cared about Children dying? Mothers, Fathers, whole families dying? Or did they only care about American children dying? Or Japanese children dying? Does it matter where they were, they were just children who were murdered.
The victims of these attacks on America and Japan did not instigate them. So no, they did not deserve to be murdered no.1.

edit - remove - report - save #71 - by Not your friend May 4, 2008

43 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008.
And what have you done in your life, sit back and complain ?.
"Nanking was China's problem" oh that is the perfect answer for a coward. And Rowanda was their problem, and the Kurds was Saddam's problem. Keep your head firmly buried up you ass.

edit - remove - report - save #72 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

it's a shame... back then or today there allway be this kind of disturbing pictures to reminds how brutal mankind is. I've seen horrors of war and if those who think that this is right shouldn't just look at this as just an image but try to sense the smell and the loud silent sound of death. those who have been in a real war kwow what i'm talking about... there´s nothing more brutal than the aftermath of a big explosion. It's simply horiffic.

edit - remove - report - save #73 - by Not your friend May 4, 2008

"by Anonymous May 4, 2008

You American bastards! I celebrated long and hard when September 11 struck! Even opened a bottle of champagne, death to America!"

I guess that says enough of what you are. You are the type of looser that make my life worth living. I would like nothing more than to be the one that pisses on your grave you coward E.S.A.D

edit - remove - report - save #74 - by Kevin May 4, 2008

To believe that this act was okay is a self defense mechanism to prevent one from suffering the pangs of guilt. War is not strength, it is cowardice. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, all cowards. We could have prevented Hitler from getting out of control without war but we don't know how to talk. We sat back and watched him hate and kill "those other people" to the point where discussion was not an option. We continue to do do the same thing. We think that talking is weak and killing innocent people is strength. I'll go out on a limb and summize that most of the people who support these horrific deeds are christians. It always amazes me that people who say they follow the teachings of Jesus Christ are the first ones in line to fight a war. Here we are a nation of "so called" christians and our first instinct to any kind of opposition is ti punch someone in the nose, kick someones ass, shoot someone, develope a hatred for others so that we can invade and kill them, bomb people, nuke people and what comes next? What we have been doing for the past few thousand years really appears to not be working but we continue on. It's time we hold our leaders to account and stop allowing ourselves to be brainwashed by those with ulterior motives. For what other reason do we not see christians marching in the streets with their crosses condemning violence and war? Are we too pre-cccupied with pointing our fingers at other people as being too war-like? Do people really believe that their god is an American? As long as people continue the insanity that accompanies nationalism and religion we will be condemned to repeat these horrors until the end of time. Please excuse my spelling.

edit - remove - report - save #75 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

the japanese offered to surrender at yalta with only the condition of keeping their emperor, Truman said no, nuked them, and then let them keep the emperor anyway. The end.

edit - remove - report - save #76 - by Anonymous May 4, 2008

you sick american mother fuckers, looking at images of burnt fucked up used to be humans n all you can say is yeah cool. Fucking brain dead cunts.

edit - remove - report - save #77 - by trickygrin (b7hMW3XhO2) - May 4, 2008

I look at the vast majority of these comments and am appalled. What a bunch of self-righteous ignorant fools we are as a nation. I seriously wonder at the brand of blind patriotism that manages to sweep through every couple of years. To all you who think this was A-Ok and absolutely necessary, watch 'Grave of the Fireflies.' It was a nation of starving elderly people and mothers and children. We were not in the right and we've been trying to justify it ever since. Jesus...grow up, people.